1998 XM - 2.1td - Steamy Windows!

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Re: 1998 XM - 2.1td - Cambelt Win!

Post by citroenxm » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:42 pm

No your MOST likely correct Jim...

Im useually the wrong one.. I just noted on my TCT I did a belt on that the Key way was facing the gap to the left of that TD picture above..

Most likly me getting it wrong.. As my FCF says, been involved with too much to know what Im dooing correctly!! :?
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Re: 1998 XM - 2.1td - Cambelt Win!

Post by Dieselman » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:14 pm

On the 2.0i petrols, the key does face the gap.

The 2.0i and 2.1TD blocks are different, just the seal housing is the same. It would have been logical to key the 2.1 crank the same as the 2.0i one.
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Re: 1998 XM - 2.1td - Cambelt Win!

Post by CitroJim » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:20 pm

Ahh, that explains it then Will so you were right all along with the 2.0i engine Paul. :D All my experience is with the Activa TCT which may be different again from the XM TCT...
Dieselman wrote: It would have been logical to key the 2.1 crank the same as the 2.0i one.
It's French Will; logic does not come into it :lol:
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Re: 1998 XM - 2.1td - Cambelt Win!

Post by turbo_imp » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:25 pm

That looks like a static advance timing hole?

Thanks for the kind words guys, I can't wait to get stuck in with the clay bar and polish tomorrow :) I do love transforming a car with a bit of elbow grease :)

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Re: 1998 XM - 2.1td - Cambelt Win!

Post by youreallmad » Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:30 pm

WOW!
It looks like ive had a lucky escape !
I think i may go for a late, low mileage 3.0 Exclusive if anyone knows of one for sale they could post it on here.

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Re: 1998 XM - 2.1td - Cambelt Win!

Post by citroenxm » Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:33 pm

YES I DO..

I know of TWO back V6 24v XM's available, one with an MOT on it...

PM on its way...
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Re: 1998 XM - 2.1td - Cambelt Win!

Post by turbo_imp » Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:55 pm

Why do you say lucky escape yourallmad?

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Re: 1998 XM - 2.1td - Cambelt Win!

Post by turbo_imp » Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:01 pm

Well that was a tiring day, I started well with poached eggs and bacon on home made wholemeal :) Then got my things together and started on the non working windows.

The passenger side rear was easy enough to solve, there is no mechanism, nothing, no wires / motor the lot, gone! So I need to get a replacement for that, do I need a year / mark specific one?

Driver side front was easy to diagnose, wire dangling down in the door, motor whirring away. Standard XM broken control cable then :)

I wrestled with the whole assembly, and eventually got it out but crikey, it was tough! I did not get many pictures as my hands were filthy, but it was quite odd as the door was totally dry apart from the gearbox which was soaking! Very strange?

When I disassembled the gearbox, it actually made me laugh, it looked like a ball of wool after our two whippets have been at it :D

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Clearly the rusted / frayed / broken cable has been wound round and round doing some proper damage. The gearbox seal has suffered with the cable tearing the face off it and the compression spring.

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I cleaned this up, trimmed the rubber back so it was neat and removed the spring, it is not perfect but it will do.

Next up was the cable drum, ooooooh what a mess!

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The cable has abraded the nylon quite badly, distorting it and losing the definition on the tracks. I got out the needle files and tidied this up, did the best I could and it works, I am just not sure if the cable will jump tracks?

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I built up the assembly using an ecrofting kit, I know they cost a fair amount considering the contents, but it is all there and a proven solution. Re-assembled and fitted the lot :)

This is where the car really stumped me, when fitting I tested the window at the earliest opportunity, fine and working well. So I continued to fit the door card and associated items, then a very odd buzzing noise emanated from the engine bay, and everything stopped working. I panicked assuming that something had gone properly wrong as my battery charger popped it's fuse too, maybe the motor had got stuck going up and had started to draw a big current?

I thought for a bit after I disconnected the battery, put the terminals back on and voltage checked the system, 7 volts across the terminals! I had flattened the battery and when it got very low obviously demanded too much off the charger, hence the fuse going pop. I put the battery off the BMW on it and all back to life. Still not sure on the buzzing from the engine bay though?

I celebrated by trying a bit of compounding on the front wing -

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Coming up quite well I think, the paint is in good condition, just typical haloing and surface scratching. It won't take too long to sort out!

Thats it for today, we will be a bit quiet in the week due to dark, will be back on it again next weekend :)

Thanks guys.

J

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Re: 1998 XM - 2.1td - Wooly Knots!

Post by citroenxm » Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:23 pm

The Drivers window mechanisem is the only one that has three different eiras of connections depending on year...

S1 Windows are all the same connecting plug, the simple Two Pin connector..

Then the drivers window then got two sorts of connectors when the One touch was intigrated into the plug for S2 cars from around Late N reg to P reg eira, then I think later on again it chaged again when anti pinch was added to the drivers only window..

All the other three stayed the same as two pic connections... So, an S1 window will go in an S2 but you may just need to change the actual plug to the later type plug with the safty anti slip clip on it.
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Re: 1998 XM - 2.1td - Wooly Knots!

Post by turbo_imp » Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:57 pm

Thanks, XM :)

I will start bidding on the on ebay ;)

J

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