Gasa XM 2.1 "Prestige"

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Re: Gasa XM 2.1 "Prestige"

Post by Gasa » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:01 pm

Not to forget the music, this XM model had no radio or speakers, the former owner put some Pioneer speakers, the regular cheapest model and this VW gamma radio.
Now I only replaced the radio, I have several pieces of radio equipment, from Alpine, Sony, Becker, Pioneer, Sanyo, Balaupunkt and some other models, of all the models, I still decided on the Grundig, it is from that period and it sounds better, for speakers later I will decide which one to put.

..the moldy VW Gamma :)
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..various models :D
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...I use this Becker in BX
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..antique :D
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Re: Gasa XM 2.1 "Prestige"

Post by Gasa » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:19 pm

...and finally the winner of the competition Grundig VKC 5600 infomat, it was used very little, as if it was taken out of the box. :)

Otherwise, the radio is very good, it has many different setting options, changing colors, different tone settings and many other options.....
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Re: Gasa XM 2.1 "Prestige"

Post by Dieselman » Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:46 am

and a cassette tape...

I like Becker kit, what was the Avus fitted to, Porsche?

If you want a high quality, four channel stereo and want to integrate your own Mp3 player connection, a Becker 3100 tape deck is ideal, as you can just hack into the audio gateway and switch between radio and tape (now Mp3).
I need to look at this, but the Clarions fitted to the Xm need to see the tape running, otherwise eject it and switch to radio.
The advantage with the Clarion and Philips units is they integrate the steering wheel controls, which I suspect you don't have.

Time to slide underneath to fit the steering gaiters and track control arms...then this Xm should be on the road, should it not?

You can fit the passenger side steering gaiter without removing the rack, if you unscrew the track control arm, turn the steering rack to extend it that side and unbolt both ends of the power ram.
Hold the rack using a flat adjustable spanner on the toothed rack part when loosening the track control arm. Do not grip the round shaft with any toothed grips, as this runs in a bearing.

If using a thermoplastic gaiter, heat it to enable it to stretch over the ram spigot.
Genuine Citroen gaiters are best, but thermoplastic ones should be as good. Sasic used to supply both sides in thremoplastic, but now the drivers side is in elastomer.
If you find a supplier of both sides in thermoplastic please advise where.

Saw you photo's. Not many of those Passats left now.
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Re: Gasa XM 2.1 "Prestige"

Post by Gasa » Thu Apr 13, 2023 8:07 am

Avus was also in some Mercedes models, the only drawback is that it is not Stereo, for Grundig it also has a CD, so I can listen to music with a CD.
I think that instead of a CD, an MP3 device can be connected via an adapter, I will see what can be done.

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Re: Gasa XM 2.1 "Prestige"

Post by Gasa » Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:24 pm

Today's activity was checking and refilling the anti-sink bomb, it would have been refilled if it hadn't exploded :grandpa: which means the purchase of a new bomb is on its way.
Everyone who wanted or removed it knows what the problem is with that bomb, because the bomb itself cannot be removed from that carrier.
In order not to be bullied into removing three screws that are VERY inaccessible and hold the entire bomb carrier, I approached a much simpler solution and literally in 5 minutes the bomb is freed and can be pulled out to change the carrier and chassis of the car .

...this is XM :)
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..there is nothing from the refill, the pressure is 0 :|
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...the system for removing and releasing the bomb consists in removing the screws that hold the rear part of the undercarriage, so that the car is lifted a little with a crane to separate the undercarriage from the chassis, thereby creating a larger space where the bomb can slip between the chassis and carriers, fast and simple.
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...here you can clearly see how much space is available for extracting the bomb.
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... comes out easy. :)
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...returned to its place without any problems.
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Re: Gasa XM 2.1 "Prestige"

Post by Gasa » Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:25 pm

...don't forget to put the screws back on the trap. :D
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Re: Gasa XM 2.1 "Prestige"

Post by DownUnderXM » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:21 am

Great to see how little rust there is under your car! I did the same - lowered the rear-subframe to change the anti-sink sphere.

Although I removed the bolts entirely in the LHS, I think I just loosened the RHS bolts right off, without removing them. This allowed the LHS to drop just enough, while ensuring that the sub-frame didn't skew out of position, thus making reinserting the bolts easy.

Like that electric-blue paint on the bolt heads etc!

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Re: Gasa XM 2.1 "Prestige"

Post by Dieselman » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:53 am

It looks like Gasa only removed both rear bolts, rather than the Lh ones.
I'm surprised it created enough room to remove the anti-sink sphere, but obviously it did. It might be a simpler method, as these bolts are extremely easy to access.

Citroen call this sphere the Smac sphere and refer to it as anti sink We had some debate as to it's actual purpose and it appears it is there to provide reserve rear brake pressure in the case of pump/main circuit failure.
With Smac, the anti-sink valve isolates the rear hydraulic rams when main circuit pressure falls, with the theory being the rear brakes can no longer use the rear suspension to provide the required pressurised fluid, thus a reserve sphere was added.

The anti-sink (reserve rear brake pressure) sphere and the centre hydractive spheres are often neglected, as the owner doesn't feel a direct influence so leaves them.

Citroen drivers are not alone, many Mercedes Sls and Abc system spheres are left until they rupture.

If you are not familiar with the Mercedes systems, they are similar to the Citroen system, but because of patent restrictions, the cars don't ride on the hydraulics using the spheres as the suspension springs.
In the case of Sls (self levelling suspension), the car rides on coil springs and the hydraulics provide additional assistance when the rear of the car drops under load and additionally the spheres act as the dampers.

In the case of Abc, the car rides on coil springs inside the strut unit and the hydraulic pressure is used to adjust the ride height at each corner individually, via an electrovalve pair for each corner. One valve is an isolator valve (anti-sink), one valve is height correction (fluid admittance/hold/withdraw).
This makes the system very similar to the Citroen Hydractive 3+ used on C5 and C6, with the exception that the Mercedes spheres are simply accumulators, a larger one for the pressurised feed, a smaller one for the return, to act as a pulsation damper.
I suspect lack of accumulator sphere maintenance might contribute to hydraulic strut failure on these systems, as the shock loading of the rams will be significant, whenever the elctrovalves are open, due to the lack of accumulator gas pressure. This will be a considerable time as the body height is being constantly controlled to stop squat, dive and roll.

The citroen Hydractive3+ system doesn't incorporate anti-roll, but does have variable rate spring and damper setup, as all Hydractive systems do.
The system is fully electronic with no mechanical height correctors, as fitted to Hydractive1 and Hydractive2 systems, but is otherwise very similar, except having a pair of spheres for each wheel, instead of each axle sharing the hydractive sphere.

Apologies for topic drift, Gasa.
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Re: Gasa XM 2.1 "Prestige"

Post by Dieselman » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:14 am

DownUnderXM wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:21 am
Great to see how little rust there is under your car! I did the same - lowered the rear-subframe to change the anti-sink sphere.
I agree, it's in remarkably good condition, but I can see the rear subframe cruciform rear mount reinforcing plate is seperating. Time to drop the subframe and deal with that.

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Here is Citjon's repair.

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DownUnderXM wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:21 am
Like that electric-blue paint on the bolt heads etc!
A few bits of that blue on some badges and in the headlamp surrounds and Gasa should be able to sneak that through as a new ULEZ compliant car.
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Re: Gasa XM 2.1 "Prestige"

Post by Gasa » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:35 pm

There is no corrosion in that place, it is only superficial and I will clean and protect it later.

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