SOLD: 2.1TD MANUAL Estate, 58K miles Erm Bought!
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Re: SOLD: 2.1TD MANUAL Estate, 58K miles Erm Bought!
Yes a nice car.It is a bosch pump though, so no trip computer,also has the alloy inlet plenum and has the fuel primer integrated into purflux filter..Can't see the receiver unit,so presumably doesn't have a/c.The mileage sells it though.
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We have one Staffy, but she is a large staffy, some people say she is an ireish staffy and doing some research shows she might be. The other is a Lab cross, maybe even cross staffy, but he is very tall and very heavy. Really nice character, would not hurt a fly.andmcit wrote:I cannot recall, what breed of dogs have you got? My two Boxers love riding in the back of the Activa as they
don't get thrown around so much although obviously I don't go hooning about as though I were on my own in it!!!
Of all the cars they hop into it keener than the others.![]()
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They do fit in the Xm hatchbacks boot but its a bit os a squeeze with the window being so sloping and the light shines directly through the rear window onto them so no good on a sunny day either. Plus we have always fancied an estate. Its just nice to have a car which they can be thrown in and off you go, rather than having to mess around emptying the Caravelle etc just to take them out for a walk. Must be quite rare too, being a 2.1 manual, so thats appealing also.
I didnt know you had two boxers though Andrew, they obviously have good taste in cars!
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Is the fact is has a Bosch pump a good or a bad thing?robertmnorton wrote:Yes a nice car.It is a bosch pump though, so no trip computer,also has the alloy inlet plenum and has the fuel primer integrated into purflux filter..Can't see the receiver unit,so presumably doesn't have a/c.The mileage sells it though.
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I dont mind it not having a trip computer, so long as thats the only downside

Im sure it doesnt have air conditioning, which is a shame but still, its almost winter now!

Should be a good buy for the mileage alone, dont think ive ever seen an estate diesel with such few miles on within the last few years.
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Turns out im going to be too busy tomorrow so we are going to collect it this evening, so will report back later with my findings
Just deciding what car to go in to fetch it, a bit of Xming on the way down would be nice, then we can convoy home
I shall have to go and wake it up in that case, it could do with a lengthy run.
OOO exciting stuff
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Just deciding what car to go in to fetch it, a bit of Xming on the way down would be nice, then we can convoy home

OOO exciting stuff

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The Bosch pump is a *very* good thing 

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Oh thats good news then
The white Xm is out, ive checked it over and we're ready for the run down to collect it now.
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The white Xm is out, ive checked it over and we're ready for the run down to collect it now.
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That car sounds very good...Damn you Chris...



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Re: SOLD: 2.1TD MANUAL Estate, 58K miles Erm Bought!
Well we are back, with the estate
Oh and a rather nifty tourch i got from a service centre on the way down ... it was getting a bit dark to have a good look at the car you see. So not an ideal time to buy a car, but never the less .....
Its pretty much as described, the front wing and door on the drivers side are a darker shade, but i couldnt see any other signs of repair. There are scratches on the bonnet so the wing, bonnet and door will need to be repainted at some point. They could of course be left but we want it looking good but they are not urgent.
The crack in the screen is right at the very edge, infact its only in the black surround at the bottom of the screen and can not be seen from inside the car, however the screen is going white around the edges so it needs a replacement at some point, but its not urgent.
Despite its FSH I cant find anywhere in the service history which says the cambelt has been changed! Now i cant imagine it getting to this stage without a replacement belt but i guess it has done. So thats one of the first things on the list of to dos. I asume the 2.1 is an interference engine and will be knackered should it go ... Might leave it parked until its done!
He said its had new spheres and it looks like it might have had, but only 5 by the sounds of it and it rides very firm, the back is softer than the front but not by a huge deal. So we will have a look at the spheres at the weekend and see about what to do with them. The height leaver is very very stiff so that needs looking at too.
One thing i thought was odd is that on the SX cars when i press the sport button it puts up an orange light on the dash in the shape of a spring. However the estate doesnt do this, it says sports suspenion or something in the little display when the button is in sports but there is no orange light. Do VSX cars not have this orange light or is it just not working?
Ok, enough with the bad bits already! Here are some good bits:
The strut tops look pretty much like new, both look perfect under the wheel arch and under the bonnet. Apart from the colour change and scratches on the bonnet the rest of the body is really very good, very straight with only one small trolley dink. Its missing one headlamp washer cover, but both work (i didnt know they popped up!) and it has both of its towing eye covers too.
The engine pulls really well, im impressed, i was thinking it might be a little slow but it certainly isnt, very good engine. Its hardly used any fuel either, which is nice! The gearbox is slick and the clutch works nicely, with the bite slightly lower than mid way. Brakes are good, steering feels good and it handles very well.
The interior looks great, no signs of wear and tear, steering wheel is not worn, neither are the seats, as you would excpect for this mileage. So the interior is good apart from there is a chunk missing from the gearknob (anyone have a spare?). The boot is very clean, doesnt even look used, parcel chelf is there and undamaged. I was surprised to see it doesnt have a key/pin code, just another pocket, which is no bad thing!
Im going to have a better look at it tomorrow, as ive not seen it in full day light yet. Have a good look around the car, but it seems a good one, just needs a bit of TLC on the suspension and a bit of tidying to the paintwork. Over all, so far i think its a good buy
The drive, well it was quite a nice drive over to get it once off the motorway, so i had the Xm hatch in sport and enjoying myself on the nice twisting roads. On the way back i drove the estate the same way, with my dad following in the hatch. I didnt need the estate in sports mode as its firm anyway, but felt really good to drive on such roads, but a bit too jittery. The engine pulled very well up the steep inclines, sounds very sweet and revs nicely, though i was carefull not to over stress it, didnt want to risk that belt! After that we swapped over cars and i did the rest of the journey back in the hatch following my dad in the estate. Certainly looks good on the road, slight smoke on full acceleration but nothing you wondnt expect from a diesel, really has quite a bit off pull on the motorway too. As we came off the motorway onto the small country road which leads to our town it was difficult keeping up with the estate, so it must be quite nippy.
One thing which is odd is the speedo is reading out by quite a bit. Not sure if its normal for a 2.1 but doing 70mph on the speedo of the hatch is 68mph on the satnat. However in the estate the dials are saying 74mph when the satnav is saying 68. Any reasons for that?
Its certainly a genuine car, if not an especially well pampered one. It still has its original rear tyres so that alone justifies the mileage, it does have full service history with stamps right up until 54K miles, but no mention of the cambelt. Though it might have been done, its better to get it checked and replaced as there is no proof.
Will post up some pictures tomorrow, once ive had a better look.
Im tired now, been a busy day, so sorry if the above doesnt make sense! Chris.

Its pretty much as described, the front wing and door on the drivers side are a darker shade, but i couldnt see any other signs of repair. There are scratches on the bonnet so the wing, bonnet and door will need to be repainted at some point. They could of course be left but we want it looking good but they are not urgent.
The crack in the screen is right at the very edge, infact its only in the black surround at the bottom of the screen and can not be seen from inside the car, however the screen is going white around the edges so it needs a replacement at some point, but its not urgent.
Despite its FSH I cant find anywhere in the service history which says the cambelt has been changed! Now i cant imagine it getting to this stage without a replacement belt but i guess it has done. So thats one of the first things on the list of to dos. I asume the 2.1 is an interference engine and will be knackered should it go ... Might leave it parked until its done!
He said its had new spheres and it looks like it might have had, but only 5 by the sounds of it and it rides very firm, the back is softer than the front but not by a huge deal. So we will have a look at the spheres at the weekend and see about what to do with them. The height leaver is very very stiff so that needs looking at too.
One thing i thought was odd is that on the SX cars when i press the sport button it puts up an orange light on the dash in the shape of a spring. However the estate doesnt do this, it says sports suspenion or something in the little display when the button is in sports but there is no orange light. Do VSX cars not have this orange light or is it just not working?
Ok, enough with the bad bits already! Here are some good bits:
The strut tops look pretty much like new, both look perfect under the wheel arch and under the bonnet. Apart from the colour change and scratches on the bonnet the rest of the body is really very good, very straight with only one small trolley dink. Its missing one headlamp washer cover, but both work (i didnt know they popped up!) and it has both of its towing eye covers too.
The engine pulls really well, im impressed, i was thinking it might be a little slow but it certainly isnt, very good engine. Its hardly used any fuel either, which is nice! The gearbox is slick and the clutch works nicely, with the bite slightly lower than mid way. Brakes are good, steering feels good and it handles very well.
The interior looks great, no signs of wear and tear, steering wheel is not worn, neither are the seats, as you would excpect for this mileage. So the interior is good apart from there is a chunk missing from the gearknob (anyone have a spare?). The boot is very clean, doesnt even look used, parcel chelf is there and undamaged. I was surprised to see it doesnt have a key/pin code, just another pocket, which is no bad thing!
Im going to have a better look at it tomorrow, as ive not seen it in full day light yet. Have a good look around the car, but it seems a good one, just needs a bit of TLC on the suspension and a bit of tidying to the paintwork. Over all, so far i think its a good buy

The drive, well it was quite a nice drive over to get it once off the motorway, so i had the Xm hatch in sport and enjoying myself on the nice twisting roads. On the way back i drove the estate the same way, with my dad following in the hatch. I didnt need the estate in sports mode as its firm anyway, but felt really good to drive on such roads, but a bit too jittery. The engine pulled very well up the steep inclines, sounds very sweet and revs nicely, though i was carefull not to over stress it, didnt want to risk that belt! After that we swapped over cars and i did the rest of the journey back in the hatch following my dad in the estate. Certainly looks good on the road, slight smoke on full acceleration but nothing you wondnt expect from a diesel, really has quite a bit off pull on the motorway too. As we came off the motorway onto the small country road which leads to our town it was difficult keeping up with the estate, so it must be quite nippy.
One thing which is odd is the speedo is reading out by quite a bit. Not sure if its normal for a 2.1 but doing 70mph on the speedo of the hatch is 68mph on the satnat. However in the estate the dials are saying 74mph when the satnav is saying 68. Any reasons for that?
Its certainly a genuine car, if not an especially well pampered one. It still has its original rear tyres so that alone justifies the mileage, it does have full service history with stamps right up until 54K miles, but no mention of the cambelt. Though it might have been done, its better to get it checked and replaced as there is no proof.
Will post up some pictures tomorrow, once ive had a better look.
Im tired now, been a busy day, so sorry if the above doesnt make sense! Chris.
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Re: SOLD: 2.1TD MANUAL Estate, 58K miles Erm Bought!
Great stuff!
I'd bet the belt is original! People only consider doing a new belt when mileage is getting a little leggy
but don't consider age too: as a simple precaution can you afford not to?
The bodywork was to be expected and the screen doesn't sound bad though may be weakened thus not offering
full rigidity on the pillars in the event of an accident. Can those original rear tyres be trusted in much the same
way as the original timing belt!?
I look forward to the pics; its actually the nicest colour I've seen an estate wearing actually being quite bright
and fresh! Spheres'n belt done, job's a good'un!
Andrew
I'd bet the belt is original! People only consider doing a new belt when mileage is getting a little leggy
but don't consider age too: as a simple precaution can you afford not to?
The bodywork was to be expected and the screen doesn't sound bad though may be weakened thus not offering
full rigidity on the pillars in the event of an accident. Can those original rear tyres be trusted in much the same
way as the original timing belt!?
I look forward to the pics; its actually the nicest colour I've seen an estate wearing actually being quite bright
and fresh! Spheres'n belt done, job's a good'un!
Andrew
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Re: SOLD: 2.1TD MANUAL Estate, 58K miles Erm Bought!
Check if the orange spring lights up when starting the car and that the electrovalve clicks when opening the door. If neither of those happen, thecitroenmad wrote: One thing i thought was odd is that on the SX cars when i press the sport button it puts up an orange light on the dash in the shape of a spring. However the estate doesnt do this, it says sports suspenion or something in the little display when the button is in sports but there is no orange light. Do VSX cars not have this orange light or is it just not working?
hydractive ECU is not gettin power or its broken. That would explain it being hard. In my case it was a bad fuse when I bought the car. There is also a relay involved you can also check.
The panel will show normal or sport even if the hydractive ECU is offline, it just gets a signal from the switch.