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Re: Buying steelies for XM's

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:28 pm
by captainhaddock
I bought 4 new michelins engergy savers twice now, for 440 euro's for 4 incl. 23% VAT. That's all fitted-balanced etc.
Equivalent of £350? They last longer so are well worth the investment.
Don't go for Bridgestones, they were 280 euro's for a set but last only half as long. (front ones that is, only about 15K) Hankook wintertyres is what I use, 360 euro's all inr and quite comfy be it a bit noisy of course. I would go for new in any case. Safety first etc.etc.

Re: Buying steelies for XM's

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:57 am
by jorgy
I can vouch for the Michelin Energy Savers (new). Have them on the TD in 195/65/15. Very good all-round. If the comfort aspect is especially important to you, don't look further -they have the softest wall I've seen on a tyre, you can fully bend it with just 2 fingers, it's unreal. For periods I swap these for 195/60/16 Bridgestone Potenza 300s (or "300RE" or so) (new) and the difference is noticable -on some pieces of my daily motorway trip, there is a kind of small tremor added to the ride, guess from the type of surface variation that's mostly absorbed by the tyre wall rather than the suspension -tiny things the eye can't see. Other than that though they didn't ruin the comfort as I expected they'd do. Cornering grip especially is at another level, on the other hand -these BRs have the hardest wall I've seen on a tyre (and they're not that low a profile).

Re: Buying steelies for XM's

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:30 pm
by Charles M
I am picking up Pauls (soon to be my) XM diesel next week - probably Wednesday 13th. I am not sure where you want the wheels delivered to, if I can do so I will on the return journey, but if not, they can go in the garage for a short stay (I am very tight for space at present) until you can pick them up from Iver? Let me know if you still need the pick up.

Re: Buying steelies for XM's

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:55 am
by CitroJim
If it's of any help they can sit here for a short time Charles...

Re: Buying steelies for XM's

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:53 am
by White Exec
Agree with comments about Michelin Energy Savers: quiet, grippy, great ride and long life. Seem to be a thoroughly acceptable replacement for the original Michelin Primacy's, no longer available in many profiles.

Re: Buying steelies for XM's

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:02 am
by CitroJim
White Exec wrote:Agree with comments about Michelin Energy Savers
Me too.

I have them on my Activa and love 'em to bits. An excellent tyre.

Re: Buying steelies for XM's

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:21 am
by normantilbury
so do I they seem to go on and on

norman

Re: Buying steelies for XM's

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:25 am
by CitroJim
That's not good for me Norman. I invariably replace tyres because of sidewall cracks rather than tread wear and I notice the Michelin Energys' on the back of the Xantia V6 have begun to crack but in their defence m'lud they were a pair of NOS tyres dating from 2009 fitted in 2011...

Years of tread left on them though...

I note the tread pattern of the 2009 Energy is quite different from the 2012 vintage Energy fitted to the Activa. I wonder if it's just the pattern or if anything else about them have changed?

Re: Buying steelies for XM's

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:31 am
by kingp
I have these fitted to the Xantia i have got in as well as the XM.

I find them a bit to soft at the front for anything but ultra sedate roundabout negotiations so tend to go for slightly stiffer ones upfront or what ever remoulds i get a hold of.

On the Activa i had a tried some hankook tyres with a very stiff sidewall and the grip was a decent heap better than the avons that were fitted before to it :)

I think with the newer versions the rubber compound changes and thats all.

Do you prep or cover your tyres at all Jim to help delay the cracking? Something like a Silicone spray may help with the aging of them :)

Re: Buying steelies for XM's

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:33 am
by CitroJim
No, not really Will apart from a bit of cosmetic black at rally time...
kingp wrote: I find them a bit to soft at the front for anything but ultra sedate roundabout negotiations
That's why they suit me then :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's my way of driving...