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Re: Breaking : 1993 2.1 SED Auto

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:03 pm
by Dieselman
A long extension from below the car will reach it.

Re: Breaking : 1993 2.1 SED Auto

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:54 am
by jeastham
Dieselman wrote:A long extension from below the car will reach it.
The nut ? I can turn the nut ;-). Just that the nut turns the bolt; and I can't see what arrangement is in place; the opposite end to the nut.

Got a 1/4" ratchet, a full set of extension bars, and a U/J, so no issue with getting access to the nut; it's the other end I've got a problem with.

Think I'll slide the seat back, pull the carpet up; and get the angle grinder out !

Re: Breaking : 1993 2.1 SED Auto

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:00 am
by xmexclusive
Go careful with the angry grinder.
The fuel pipes are right behind the metalwork you need to remove.

John

Re: Breaking : 1993 2.1 SED Auto

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:48 am
by MTXM
There is a hexagonal head on the other end of the bolt around 10mm I think that is slightly recessed into a cup but you should be able to get a spanner in hopefully! Regards, Matthew T.

Re: Breaking : 1993 2.1 SED Auto

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:53 am
by robert_e_smart
The only way to a grinder in there to cut them is when the engine is rocked forward a bit. Thats how (when) I cut these.

Re: Breaking : 1993 2.1 SED Auto

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:12 am
by jeastham
Is it me; or is this a stupid design? What's wrong with a stud and nut affair? That way; if (WHEN) the nut seizes onto the stud; at least the nut and stud come out as one. I'd be fornicated, if I wanted to just replace the exhaust !

Re: Breaking : 1993 2.1 SED Auto

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:58 am
by jeastham
It's off !!!


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Re: Breaking : 1993 2.1 SED Auto

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:04 pm
by cxprestigeauto
Top job!

Socket and spanner or grinder and brute force?

Rob

Re: Breaking : 1993 2.1 SED Auto

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:29 pm
by White Exec
How about replacing the bolt etc with a stainless bolt, hex-headed . . . Might allow a long allen key onto the difficult end.
Or weld a bit mild steel rod/bar onto the old bolthead before it goes back in, which would stop rotation.
S/s or brass nut, too.

I think awkward manifold end fastenings are a long tradition in the motor industry. My 1935 Rover 10 was like it, and so was my 1959 Mini. With all of these, Fred-in-a-Shed could have designed better! Great photo: Man will not be beaten!

Re: Breaking : 1993 2.1 SED Auto

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:42 pm
by jeastham
cxprestigeauto wrote:Top job!

Socket and spanner or grinder and brute force?

Rob
A mate, with a 1/4" T-bar, with extension, U/J, and 10mm socket.

Me, with a 1/4" ratchet, 2 extensions, and a 10mm socket.

...and a lot of patience.

XM has eaten one of my 10mm sockets (probably stuck to some crap, on the top of the sub-frame)