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Re: 3.5mm Citroen pipe flaring tool
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:28 pm
by xmexclusive
Hi All
Another useful consumable that Pliaedes supply is replacement pipe nuts for 3.5mm pipe.
These are manufactured with larger than normal (10mm) nut flats making them much less prone to damage if you have to undo them.
John
Re: 3.5mm Citroen pipe flaring tool
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:34 am
by Jan-hendrik
It went for a crazy price.
Re: 3.5mm Citroen pipe flaring tool
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:27 am
by hydroman
Yes, thats more than Pliaedes chatge for a new one.
Re: 3.5mm Citroen pipe flaring tool
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:44 am
by kenhall
I think that Martin of Pleiades deserves a free plug on the forum for his splendid efforts in keeping many Citroen owners mobile for over twenty years.
See the attached file regarding the Pleiades flaring tool.
Pleiades flare tool.doc
Ken
Re: 3.5mm Citroen pipe flaring tool
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:23 pm
by Dieselman
Jan-hendrik wrote:It went for a crazy price.
Agreed. I was watching this one from early on when it was about £10. Having spoken to Pleiades I knew I was out when it was £40 +p&p.
Re: 3.5mm Citroen pipe flaring tool
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:37 am
by Jan-hendrik
kenhall wrote:I think that Martin of Pleiades deserves a free plug on the forum for his splendid efforts in keeping many Citroen owners mobile for over twenty years.
See the attached file regarding the Pleiades flaring tool.
Pleiades flare tool.doc
Ken
Is there a picture of this tool somewhere?
About ten years ago, no must have been more like 15 years ago, (got older faster than I thought
)when I was restoring a DS I bought a beautiful set which came in a neat metal box from a supplier in the Netherlands. Have forgotten which supplier. It was inexpensive, about a hundred guilders, IIRC. When the DS went to a new owner I sold off a number of special tools, including the flaring tool set. Although I don't need to make up new pipes for the XM I regret I sold the set for only 6000 yen
Re: 3.5mm Citroen pipe flaring tool
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:56 am
by kenhall
Jan-hendrik
Is there a picture of this tool somewhere?
Here is the Pleiades picture of the tool (with ackowledgments). For any machinist contemplating making their own tool I would point out that I believe the tool is hardened following fabrication.
92fc_1.jpg
Ken
Re: 3.5mm Citroen pipe flaring tool
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:00 am
by Dieselman
TBH it's hard to see how that is really worth £50+. A die with a 3.4mm groove, a tapped thread, a bolt and a loose collar with an olive shaped recess.
Re: 3.5mm Citroen pipe flaring tool
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:21 am
by robert_e_smart
Its not the tool that is worth money, its what the tool enables you to do that is worth money.
Re: 3.5mm Citroen pipe flaring tool
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:33 am
by bobhalliday
Dieselman wrote:TBH it's hard to see how that is really worth £50+. A die with a 3.4mm groove, a tapped thread, a bolt and a loose collar with an olive shaped recess.
It isn't simply 'an olive shaped recess' the tool makes about 1/8" of the tubing slightly larger than 3.5mm just in front of the olive, this is where the rubber seal sits I think.
I bought mine because I suffered a burst pipe on my last XM and it cost a fortune to have it replaced, about £250 and it was off the road a week nearly! I'll be quite happy at the outlay even if I never suffer a burst pipe again!
Bob