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Re: Headroom

Post by Featch » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:53 pm

I'm 6' 5 1/2" and have no headroom issues in my XM even with a quite upright position. It has electric seats and a sunroof. The driving position is the best of any car I've ever owned, better, if I remember correctly, than my CXs. I've done several 400 mile days and arrived feeling fresh with no aches and pains.

I like sunroofs so much that I won't entertain a car without one. I think they really suit the British climate. A bit of routine maintenance keeps then in good order.
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Re: Headroom

Post by hobblerian » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:02 pm

I'm 6'2", never had a problem with headroom either in my XM with sunroof. Got about 2" clearance above my head.

I really like the way the sunroof makes the cabin so much more lighter and I never pull the shade across. When getting in cars without a sunroof they seem positivly dull inside.

The best sunroof i've ever had though was my first ever car- 2cv Dolly
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Re: Headroom

Post by Dieselman » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:38 pm

The reason I asked this question is because I'm 6'4 and have a relatively long back, coupled with back problems and preferring to sit fairly upright I find the headroom of just about any car with a sunroof too low.
It's interesting that some of the taller drivers find the XM provides enough room, presumably they have Giraffe legs... :) I do note the XM has better front legroom than a C6, I thought the seat runners were a bit short in the one I drove....though nothing like as bad as in a Cadillac Seville I sat in. It was so bad the german sat in the passenger seat said " Get a proper car, buy a Mercedes..." ;)
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Re: Headroom

Post by Peter.N. » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:49 pm

It all depends on your legs/body length ratio, I'm 6'.0" and shrinking and I have never had a problem with head room, my son is 6.'4" and doesn't complain about the headroom, complains about practically every thing else though.

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Re: Headroom

Post by Dieselman » Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:48 pm

I've tried various cars today, S1 and S2 and estates and have some conclusions. The seats in Xm's are se too high, even on the lowest setting.
I can just fit into an estate but with hair brushing the roof lining, hatches are a dead loss, apart from ones with no sunroof, which are fine but I still feel too high compared to the steering wheel, dashboard and seatbelt.

This begs a question. Can the drivers seat be lowered below the normal lowest height? Does anyone have a car with seats out that can have a look to see if there is a way of lowering the seat further.

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Re: Headroom

Post by minijet » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:30 pm

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Dieselman wrote:
This begs a question. Can the drivers seat be lowered below the normal lowest height?

TIA.
I don't know, but if you find a way please let me know. I'm 6'6" and have to have the seat set right back, and very reclined, and my hair still brushes the head lining ( :idea: note to self.....get hair cut).
I think all car designers must be midgets :x

I drove a Renault 11 for a while many years ago, and I'm sure that anyone over 5'5" would be cramped in it. I hated it (and it's virtically challenged designer) so much that I vowed never to buy a Renault........and I never will :x

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Re: Headroom

Post by Dieselman » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:38 pm

The problem is that the cars are designed with no sunroof and the UK marketeers insist on having them as a marketing gimmick.
Ever since they became an option I've ticked the NO box..! ;)

Get an XM without a sunroof and you would be OK...ish...an estate with no sunroof would be fine for you.
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Re: Headroom

Post by Dieselman » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:44 pm

minijet wrote:.
I don't know, but if you find a way please let me know. I'm 6'6"
Crickey, aren't we all a bunch of giant misfits... :mrgreen:

For a small improvement, if you have electric seats, remove the seat base and cut the plastic shroud off the motor. I did this on mine as it allows the seat to go a little bit lower.
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Re: Headroom

Post by colinxm » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:12 am

"Crickey, aren't we all a bunch of giant misfits..."

Not me, only 5`10" so feeling the odd one out :oops: lots of room for me in my estate with sunroof even with my seat at it's highest position :D

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Re: Headroom

Post by iancunningham » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:31 pm

What was that about "aren't we all a bunch of giant misfits"?

I suppose we are - I'm 6ft 7ins...!

I think we've found one common thread about the type of people that own XMs...

What is the term? "not-vertically challenged"

I've always looked upon myself as normal height - just that everyone else seems short?

Back on thread - I've never had much of a problem with headroom in any of my XMs and don't drive with the seat on the lowest setting either... Guess it's something to do with the body/leg ratio - as you said, Peter?

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