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Degens
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Re: How many left

Post by Degens » Sat Oct 18, 2025 6:37 pm

On another note, my series one starter motor suddenly failed (the white XM) and I wonder whether the stater motor from the blue series 2 would fit; I think it does fit.

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Re: How many left

Post by Dieselman » Sun Oct 19, 2025 7:25 am

The starters are probably interchangeable, but check the number of teeth on the pinion.
There are various starters used on both versions, some are the same item.
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Re: How many left

Post by Degens » Sun Oct 19, 2025 3:14 pm

Thanks Dieselman!

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Re: How many left

Post by entirelyturbo » Tue Dec 30, 2025 2:30 am

Even though I live in the USA, I actually check Howmanyleft frequently for random cars that only people like us even remember existed :lol:

By my math just now, there are 109 tested and taxed Citroën XMs on UK roads today according to Howmanyleft.

And I think that's a good gauge of how infrequent they are now in continental Europe too.

In fact, I have an acquaintance who knows I have an XM who took a holiday in France a couple summers ago, and he told me he toured most of the country, and he saw ONE XM on his whole trip, a pretty basic model (if I recall) right in the heart of Paris.

So they're even scarce in France now, let alone everywhere else.

I have a friend in Austria, too, who claims he hasn't seen a running and driving XM in probably 20 years.

That said, the XM's sister, the Peugeot 605, is even rarer in the UK now, according to Howmanyleft. I count 23 taxed and tested for UK roads in 2025 :shock:
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Re: How many left

Post by entirelyturbo » Tue Dec 30, 2025 2:44 am

Incidentally, the specialty dealership in Jacksonville, Florida, where I got my XM from (and I believe bump_drft got his XM from the same dealer) also had a Peugeot 605 V6 in their inventory when I bought my XM :)

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That car is now in Pennsylvania with an enthusiastic Peugeot owner last I knew.
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Re: How many left

Post by xantia_v6 » Tue Dec 30, 2025 2:57 am

When I bought my XM in France in 2012, I would usually see several different (and not local) XMs every week. Now, I am lucky to see one a month other than mine and a rather tatty 2.1 that lives in a neighbouring village.

This year I went to a couple of big-ish (200 - 2000 cars) classic meets in France and mine was the only XM.

They have certainly disappeared at a surprising rate in France, as have most cars more than 15 years old. I big factor in this is the french law that prevents any car that does not have a current CT (MOT) from being sold, except to a registered scrap metal dealer, who is obliged to cancel the registration (which is irreversable). The law is often ignored, but just as often it results in the loss of a perfectly fixable car, and the scrap dealers don't seem to be interested in selling parts. A few years ago I tried to buy a couple of XM V6s privately, where the owner was selling parts, but they would not sell me the complete car, for fear of breaking the law.
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