2.1td exclusive!

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2.1td exclusive!

Post by davetherave » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:21 pm

Item No: 120549337904

Wow, i want it!
Interestingly the owner says he has replaced the mk2 dot matrix with a Mk1 matrix, didnt know this was possible :?
Car looks pretty nice!

Silver XM 2.1 td

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Re: 2.1td exclusive!

Post by Peter.N. » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:18 pm

I didn't think they were interchangable either, otherwise everybody would be doing it. There is a man who knows - Paul?

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Re: 2.1td exclusive!

Post by robert_e_smart » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:48 pm

I saw in a French forum where someone listed which pin did which message within each dot matrix. I'll have a poke around and list the details.
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Re: 2.1td exclusive!

Post by minijet » Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:23 am

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Very nice condition for such a high mileage (on it's way back from the moon), even the half leather seats look to be in pretty good nick......and the auto box is still working :o

XM looks nice in silver.

Paul

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Re: 2.1td exclusive!

Post by citroenxm » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:32 am

Well as far as I knew, and tried ASWELL, they ARE NOT...

However, if someone works out a fix for S1 units to fit S2's, then form an orderly que for your new one! :lol: :lol:


Ive bloody loads of them!

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Re: 2.1td exclusive!

Post by citroenxm » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:38 am

Ive messaged him, asking about his secret getting an S1 display to work in an S2..

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Re: 2.1td exclusive!

Post by Peter.N. » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:10 am

Well done, keep us posted and put all those S1 displays in the safe 8-)
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Re: 2.1td exclusive!

Post by Dieselman » Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:14 pm

It will only be the pin outs. The message system works by each input line being shorted to Gnd to trigger a different message.

I've got some of the pin outs but the actual workings don't seem to follow the diagram in every way. I'll have a look and post up what I can work out.
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Re: 2.1td exclusive!

Post by xmexclusive » Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:36 pm

Hi All

There is a lot of message compatibility but a few variations.
Wiring plugs are the same and many of the pin allocations are common.
In the Mk1 all messages are initiated by a single wire signal.
The bulb failure wires are Mk1 only and in the Mk2 this pair of the wires is used for serial messaging.
The radio display repeater uses these signals.
You can bodge the wiring to run a Mk1 display in a Mk2 by disconnecting the serial wires.
You only get car messages and not the serial messaging function.

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Re: 2.1td exclusive!

Post by citroenxm » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:20 pm

Right,

Heres the reply I got:

Dear thefloyd_rocks_on,

Good morning. Some how I thought someone would ask that, 20 years designing automotive electronics helps. Both units work the same way, each message is triggered by a particular pin. The trouble is there's not a single pin in the same position one the two units. You need to make up an adapter to crossover all the connections between the car and the display. I'll have to have a look at this XM Forum, I didn't realise there was one.
Thanks for your interest,
Dave.

- daveohu2


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